Bishop73

12th Nov 2015

Arrow (2012)

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Suggested correction: When Diggle is walking away from Felicity, he is still talking to her but it looks like he is talking to Nyssa.

Stephen Edmonds 1

People have already tried to correct this mistake. It is valid. In the scenes prior, Nyssa says Oliver will do what it takes to kill her and Oliver says "tonight, Nyssa Al Ghul faces justice." Nyssa is there to bring the team the news that Oliver is going to try to kill her. Felicity says "Oliver wouldn't", meaning Oliver wouldn't try to kill Nyssa. Diggle says "I think what she's [she being Felicity] trying to say to say is that Oliver would never do anything to hurt you" [you being Nyssa whom Oliver is going to try to kill]. He is meant to say "Nyssa." Otherwise the entire line means Nyssa or Laurel are there to convince Felicity that Oliver would never do anything to hurt Felicity.

Bishop73

2nd Dec 2003

The Simpsons (1989)

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Suggested correction: He is simply out of shot due to the camera angles.

Ssiscool

Lenny is against the counter in front of the donut boxes. The next angle we see Homer standing in front of the same part of the counter with the donuts. Lenny should be there.

Bishop73

Revealing mistake: When Will Scarlet finds the injured Much in Sherwood Forest about three quarters of the way through the movie, a white vehicle can be seen travelling from right to left in the background. (01:27:40)

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Suggested correction: No car, just light on the hilt of Scarlett's sword.

I verified the scene. It's definitely not from the light of Scarlett's sword. It occurs after Will gets off his horse and the horse is turning. To the right of the horse is a tree in the background. To the right of that is a small clearing, about level with the horse's mouth. For a fraction of a second you can see a white object go across the small clearing in the same manner as a white car driving by.

Bishop73

10th Apr 2020

The Dark Knight (2008)

Correction: I don't really think this constitutes trivia. Two scenes vaguely resembling each other isn't really all that interesting or notable. Plus, a character interrupting a meeting in such a manner is a pretty common trope used in a lot movies. I could probably name about a half-dozen other movies with similar scenes off the top of my head.

TedStixon

I agree. Without some correlation between the two films (same director, actor, etc), two similar scenes wouldn't be trivia.

Bishop73

5th Apr 2019

SEAL Team (2017)

Time to Shine - S2-E13

Factual error: The heart cannot be restarted using a defibrillator, in fact, a defibrillator stops a fibrillating heart. The only way to restart it is chest compression.

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Suggested correction: CPR cannot restart a heart. See below: "BE AWARE Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) will not restart a heart in sudden cardiac arrest. CPR is just a temporary measure used to continue a minimal supply of oxygen to the brain and other organs. When someone is in sudden cardiac arrest, defibrillation is the only way to re-establish a regular heartbeat." From https://www.aedauthority.com/cardiac-arrest/.

Just to be clear, "sudden cardiac arrest" occurs when the heart fibrillates, which is not the same as a stopped heart.

Bishop73

Continuity mistake: When Rebecca leaves the Museum after sitting in front of the Sacajawea display after Larry asks her to leave as he's closing up, from the internal shot of when she's leaving the Museum she exits through the middle rotating door but on the outside shot she is seen leaving from the door on the right hand side of the Museum.

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Suggested correction: She is coming out from the same door in both points of view.

Suggested correction: She doesn't exit the middle door. She exits the door on the far left (you can see the 3 red carpets laid out in front of the doors and she's on the 1st/3rd one). The area to her left isn't an exit door.

Bishop73

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Suggested correction: A scorpion's pedipalps (their pincers) are not legs. Scorpions and other arachnids have 8 legs and 2 pedipalps.

Bishop73

Wow, you're right. I looked up a bunch of images of scorpions before posting this and somehow all the pictures I saw before posting showed them with 6 legs, but now I'm seeing pictures of them with 8 legs.

Phaneron

Corrected entry: Hoke looks at Miss Daisy's 5th grade class photo of 1896. But then she says her brother got married in 1888 when she was 12. This would mean she was 20 in the 5th grade. (00:18:18 - 00:45:45)

Correction: She's wasn't a 5th grader. She was the 5th grade teacher. She's the adult on the far left, 2nd row.

Bishop73

14th Oct 2019

Toy Story 4 (2019)

Other mistake: When Jessie pops the tire on the RV, Bonnie's dad gets upset and says "I just bought it." Throughout the rest of the film however, he says the RV is a rental.

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Suggested correction: Not exactly a mistake considering he bought a rental.

That's a self-contradicting statement. Buying something means you have ownership of it. Renting something means you pay for its use with the understanding that it will be returned at a specified time. You can't buy a rental any more than you can rent something you buy.

Phaneron

Suggested correction: At best it's a character mistake. As he was exasperated as Bonnie's mother says to her "Daddy's going to use some words" apparently meaning he was going to swear.

Joey221995

If it's a character mistake, it's still a mistake, so no correction is needed. I think it's a valid other mistake because it's the screen writers flipping back between owning and renting, but not an actual plot hole. I've been exasperated with a rental before and never in my anger or frustration said I bought the rented item.

Bishop73

5th Apr 2008

The Dam Busters (1955)

Factual error: The system devised to get the height right was, in the film, said to have been thought of by the 617 Sqn crews following a visit to the theater. In reality it was devised by the 'boffins' at Farnborough.

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Suggested correction: See many previously posted 'mistakes' of this type and the standard correction: this is not a documentary and never pretended to be. It is a war drama and many facts were changed to fit the action.

Those correction are often made in fallacy. Dramas based on historical accounts have liberty to change small or inconsequential things, like adding a person that may have never existed, or change a relationship for dramatic purposes. Despite not being a documentary, unless it's a fantasy film, changes in historical facts are mistakes (for example, a drama can't have the Eiffel Tower in London just because it's not a documentary).

Bishop73

Suggested correction: This was the version given in Brickhill's book. The real story wasn't published till many years after the film was made.

Corrected entry: During the scene with the SR-71 Blackbird, while Erik is on the wheel assembly, Professor X yells 'Hank take my hand' several times. Hank is flying the plane. Erik is the one he is trying to save from falling.

Good Job!

Correction: He says Erik. Xavier's accent and the noise surrounding the scene just make it sound like he is saying Hank.

Phaneron

Phaneron is correct. Xavier does say "Erik." You can hear the difference, especially in the end sound where you can hear the "ik" sound instead of "Å‹k" sound he makes when saying Hank's name (like he did a few minutes earlier in the scene).

Bishop73

He definitely says Hank. It's not even close to Erik, he's been saying Erik the whole movie and it has never sounded different due to his accent.

I just watched this scene on YouTube and he unequivocally says "Erik." You can even see his mouth move when he says the second syllable, whereas "Hank" is a one-syllable word and would not require moving the mouth mid-word.

Phaneron

It also becomes more obvious that he is saying "Erik" when the YouTube clip is played at slower speeds.

Phaneron

3rd Apr 2020

The Family Man (2000)

Corrected entry: When Jack has gone to Kate's apartment, her assistant interrupts them, complaining about working for her "ex-boss" on Christmas Eve. Kate looks at her and says, "You weren't complaining when I gave you that pot of bag" instead of "bag of pot."

Correction: She says "Prada bag", not pot of bag.

Bishop73

3rd Apr 2020

Taken (2008)

Corrected entry: When Bryan rescues the girl from the brothel he asks her the next morning where she got the denim jacket from, she says she got it from a girl at a party, Bryan then says it was his daughter, she said she was really nice and he agrees. However, the girls were kidnapped shortly after arriving at the apartment, during the afternoon, they did not go to the party.

Correction: That's not what the girl from the brothel was saying. She met Kim at the safe house (the house with the red door) where the kidnapped girls were all taken. The girl is then telling Bryan of her own abduction. She was lured into the car and told they were going to go to a party. But there was no party, that was just a lie the kidnapper told her.

Bishop73

3rd Apr 2020

Goddess of Love (1988)

Factual error: Aphrodite mentions Medusa as her friend at point. She was a Gorgon, a monster, killed by Perseus, not a friend to any of the Greek gods.

Rob245

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Suggested correction: That's just the most popular version of the ancient myth. But because the story is based on a myth, and not real events, the story can change. This would be like pointing out a factual error for a film changing the origin story of a comic book character. In the poet Ovid's (47 BC - 17 AD) telling of the story, Medusa was a beautiful young woman who later was turned into an ugly woman with snakes for hair by Athena after Poseidon's actions.

Bishop73

11th Nov 2014

Horns (2013)

Deliberate mistake: During the entire movie nothing is mentioned about the rape of Merrin until the very end, even though it is quite obvious for a forensic investigator to determine she was raped, and something like that would be very important to help find a suspect. This is done deliberately to continue the plot as rape would make Iggy less of a suspect (being her boyfriend for years) and someone like Lee more (known by Iggy and others he had feelings for her).

lionhead

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Suggested correction: Boyfriends (and even husbands), are routinely accused of and found guilty of raping their partner. Given that they were seen arguing and told by the waitress that she saw Ig dragging Merrin to his car, there's no reason to think the police wouldn't suspect Ig of rape. We don't see any of the proceedings and we are told only a little bit of information about how the characters got to where they are at the start in order to build suspense, it has nothing to do with continuing the plot.

Bishop73

19th Mar 2020

M*A*S*H (1972)

The Abduction of Margaret Houlihan - S5-E6

Other mistake: As Frank cocks his gun in the Swamp, the slide locks open and he has to hit the slide release to get it to move forward. Next he fiddles with the hammer. Next we hear the shot go off. Burns' excuse later is that he was cleaning The Gun and it went off (although admittedly, Frank doesn't always stick to the truth that religiously in situations like that). The slide on a semi-automatic locks open only if the magazine is empty or missing. The Gun locking open is also a clear, unmistakable indication that the breech is empty. He would have to insert a filled mag, then pull the slide back again to chamber a round before The Gun even had the chance to go off. One never does that while cleaning a gun. One does what Frank did to begin with: Pull the slide back without a magazine inserted to make sure the breech is empty.

Doc

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Suggested correction: Frank has demonstrated on numerous occasions that he does not follow the rules of safe gun handling, so ascribing his failure to do so is not a mistake.

LorgSkyegon

You are missing the point. His gun is demonstrably unloaded when we last see it. He would either have to change his mind about cleaning it and load it instead, or load it first and then try to clean it (which makes even less sense), neither of which is not supported by anything in the dialogue.

Doc

Cleaning The Gun was the lie. He told BJ he was going to hunt for Margaret. He had every intention of loading his gun at that point.

Bishop73

You got me there. Frank talks about looking for Margret, fiddles with The Gun, and only after the shot goes off, he talks about cleaning it.

Doc

15th Nov 2003

The Simpsons (1989)

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Suggested correction: Not really a mistake. Street lights can be in segments.

Ssiscool

When the shot is more on Bart when he's asking what Sherri and Terri are talking about, there's no street lamps seen, even though when it cuts back to the girls, there are street lamps seen that should have been visible in the previous shot.

Bishop73

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Plot hole: By having Admiral Holdo perform her infamous hyperspace ramming stunt, Rian Johnson created a continuity problem with the rest of the Star Wars universe. Since this maneuver was successful, every space battle before and since should only include a droid piloting spacecraft ramming enemy bases through hyperspace. This tactic would have been more cost effective and less risky than full on space battles seen in previous films. This tactic would no doubt have been tried in a universe filled with space battles often with disposable troops on both sides, such as in the Clone Wars. The Death Star did not need a successful trench run to be destroyed, just an X-wing with a droid ramming it at hyperspeed.

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Suggested correction: I think it's a one in a million shot. The damaged caused crippled the large ship but didn't fully destroy it and the other ships destroyed were caused by the debris from the bigger ship and ramming ship. That's just bad tactics. But in the case of for example the death star I doubt highly that ramming it with hyperspace jumps will cause significant damage. It's not like you are firing an armor piercing round and I'm pretty sure ships are equipped with all sorts of anti-debris protection. Plus I think it's bloody difficult even at that range to aim correctly at an enemy ship with a hyperjump.

lionhead

NASA engineers have to be aware of space debris orbiting the Earth that is the size of small particles because when they are orbiting at 18,000 mph around the Earth, they can cause significant damage to spacecraft. Turn that speed up to near or past the speed of light as in hyperspace and an X-wing should be enough to significantly cripple a Death Star sized object, if not completely destroy it. Yes, ships have shields, but these are ray shields meant for cannon fire. Both RotJ and TFA show that a ship can penetrate these shields (TFA displayed it at hyperspace speeds no less). Aiming should be as easy as punching the location into a navicomputer as done for traveling. It is also easier to hit and less difficult to aim at large or close objects, like Star Destroyers, Death Stars, or planets and moons.

"The damage caused crippled the large ship but didn't fully destroy it" This is what was introduced to the fiction by the director. You can dislike that if you'd like but it is not a "mistake."

This was the outcome. Hyperspace ramming was what was introduced. The outcome was also grander than simply crippling a ship. It split the ship in two and the entire fleet or a large portion of it ended up being destroyed. Without a worthwhile explanation as to how this is possible now but not previously, it also introduces plot wholes in the previous movies.

You are talking about a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. You simply don't know. Hypespace is not as simple as going faster than the speed of light. They hardly have shields, I'm talking about armor protection, bulkheads, bulges, space armor, netting. Whatever.

lionhead

Hyperspace as defined by Wookiepedia is an alternate dimension that could only be reached by traveling at or faster than the speed of light. So at this stage in the ramming stunt, it is as simple as traveling at or past light speeds as the ship has not yet entered the hyperspace lanes in the parallel dimension. So now the force the FO ship faces is the mass times acceleration and since it is traveling past lightspeed, the force would be extraordinary regardless of the mass. It would be even harder to believe an armor or anything else that could withstand that force, even on a Death Star sized space station.

To clarify, this is the hyperspace that Rian Johnson created. Before it was less clear, but the standard that has been followed since the beginning was one could not ram opposing ships with it while entering hyperspace lanes. Han Solo talks about this in A New Hope. Rogue One even has ships just entering hyperspace killing themselves on incoming Star Destroyers. This is the more faithful representation of what hyperspace travel was. Rian Johnson has completely rewritten what occurs in hyperspace which breaks Star Wars canon.

The official explanation is that the Raddus had special experimental deflector shields and that is why it worked. With normal shields it would not have worked.

Source? Is it said in the movie somewhere? So one should expect the Resistance to use these "special experimental deflector shields" and hyperspace ramming to combat the hundreds of Star Destroyers in The Rise of Skywalker, correct? Should be pretty effective. Weird that all the promos have the Resistance fighting them the old-fashioned way.

It is in the novelization of the movie.

Using a novel to correct a mistake a movie makes still makes it a movie mistake. Movies should not need books, comics, or videos games to explain their obvious flaws.

All I was saying is that it was a one in a million shot and that doing it requires a lot more than simply pointing towards the enemy and activating hyperjump. If anyone can do it and it can destroy entire fleets, then everybody would do it. But they don't, so it's not that simple. Since that is a fact, it's not a plot hole.

lionhead

That is why it creates a plot hole because the movie never presents it in a way that only this ship at this time in this way can do it. It comes across as anyone can do it so why didn't anyone else do it in the thousands of years that this universe has existed through the countless wars that have taken place? Saying it is not that simple is not a fact, its an opinion. I watched it and it looked pretty simple. It comes across as anyone can do it, so everyone should have been doing it, thus the plot hole.

This scene doesn't create a plot hole since, in the film, nothing was established to show this wouldn't work. Nor would it create a plot hole unless it was previously shown that unmanned ships were used as a regular tactic to destroy bigger ships. Plot holes are when something occurs that contradicts what the story itself (usually as a plot device to further the plot along or conclude the plot).

Bishop73

It coming across as simple doesn't make it simple. The simple fact of the matter is that this fictional universe works that way, in the other movies it hasn't happened so it's not simple. It's as simple as that. In any case it would be a plot hole in those movies, not this one. Look, if you want everything to be logical then these movies will be nothing but automated ships ramming into each other left and right and you still want the story to be told? I don't think so. So, you want to explain why they don't ram everything and you got it. Deal with it. Otherwise the fact they use hyperdrives is a plothole then as well.

lionhead

In this fictional universe, hyperspace did not work as weapons until Rian Johnson changed hyperspace for this movie's plot convenience. In doing so, Rian broke the standard canon that each previous movie followed. This is why its a plot hole in this movie and creates a discontinuity for the entire saga. Everything does not have to be understood or compared to our real world, but each fictional universe has its own set of physical laws and rules that each form of media in that universe needs to follow. Hyperdrives are not plot holes because they existed since the beginning of Star Wars and have a certain set of standards they follow that are understood. Changing these laws without a logical or worthwhile explanation in the film is ultimately disrespectful to the source material. The very idea that you brought up in that this creates plot holes in all the previous films proves that this scene is a terrible addition to the saga.

Seems to me like you just dislike the scene. Thats fine and I can understand you feel its a continuity. But it is not a plot hole for the movie.

lionhead

It is more of a continuity error that creates plot holes in the previous movies, so it could be labeled better. However, if we view Star Wars as one story like George Lucas did, then it would be a plot hole for Star Wars as a whole. If it was successful in explaining how they could do it now, but not a few years ago, then it would have been fine, more or less. It failed to do so making it a mistake, no matter how visually pleasing it was.

Hyperspace always worked as a weapon. Han explained years ago that is why they had to plot a course through hyperspace. So they would not hit anything. She meant to use it as a weapon, and succeeded. This is nothing new.

If it were a one in a million shot, then Hux would not have panicked and ordered the cruiser shot down immediately. Furthermore, the Resistance could have used their two escort ships, which were going to run out of fuel and be destroyed anyway, to try the same thing.

Doesn't the one in a million argument make Holdo a traitor that attempted to flee at the rebellion's darkest hour then? Your argument is nonsense.

It was a suicide run. It was a one in a million shot to take out the main vessel, but whatever she was going to do, she was going to die.

lionhead

Suggested correction: Just because it worked on this occasion, doesn't mean it would always work. It also hadn't been attempted before. It's not a plot hole that they didn't destroy the Death Star like this, since nobody in the rebellion considered it.

But why did no-one in the Rebellion consider it? It was their most desperate hour. They were in similar desperation as the Resistance in The Last Jedi, if not more so. Their were similar desperate times in the Clone Wars when both sides had troops of disposable clones and droids. They did not consider trying it then? They were wars occurring before that and no-one thought about using hyperspace as a weapon? It is illogical to think that there was no-one in the history of that universe that would never even consider using hyperspace as a weapon. The reason it was not considered was before Rian Johnson rewrote it, hyperspace did not operate like that. Plain and simple. Rian Johnson rewrote how hyperspace works, creating a plot holes and discontinuities for the entire saga.

No one rewrote Hyperspace. It has always been like that.

28th Nov 2003

Heartbreak Ridge (1986)

Corrected entry: Gunny Highway is drunk in the other room while Mario Van Peeble is told how Highway won the "CMH" in the Korean War. He said their platoon sergeant, Stony Jackson, recommended Highway for the award. First, the award is called "The Medal of Honor." There's no "Congressional" in the title. Second, only officers can recommend soldiers for the Medal of Honor. Stony Jackson's rank was that of an NCO.

Correction: The Medal of Honor is also known as the Congressional Medal of Honor; in fact, the official organisation for recipients is called The Congressional Medal of Honor Society. See: http://www.cmohs.org/medal.htm.

J I Cohen

The "Medal of Honor" is erroneously called "The Congressional Medal of Honor", but no military personnel would call it "CMH." Even on the Congressional Medal of Honor Society's website the NEVER call it the Congressional Medal of Honor, in every instance it's simply called "The Medal of Honor."

Bishop73

27th Aug 2003

Dial M for Murder (1954)

Corrected entry: Early in the film, Grace Kelly is talking to Bob Cummings about their extra-marital relationship and blurts out "Oh, Bob." even though Bob Cummings' character's name is "Mark Halliday."

Correction: I think it's Grace Kelly's accent that just sounds like she said "Bob" but she actually did say "Mark".

Mozzie-6

Correction: Tonight, I heard "Bob" for the first time. Then I checked the CC. Nothing. I played it back a couple of times: "Bob." And then I played it with my eyes closed-just listening, and it sounded like it could be "Mark." But since I wasn't thinking about it when I heard it the first time tonight, I'm leaning towards "Bob."

She does say "Mark." You can hear the "mm" at the beginning. She doesn't have a hard "k" sound at the end though, she has a very soft "k" sound like she did at the end of the word "drink."

Bishop73

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