Phaneron

31st Jul 2018

Logan (2017)

Question: Why does Logan cave in to Xavier's request to stop and stay with the Munsons when he knows they are being tracked by deadly mercenaries?

Phaneron

Answer: Logan likely assumed that they were in the clear. The mercenaries were able to keep finding them because they were forcing Caliban to track them, but Logan thought that they had killed him. He had no idea that Caliban was still alive and was tracking them, so he guessed that they were out of their reach.

Casual Person

How would that account for the Reavers finding them earlier at the casino hotel, though? Wouldn't Logan have been under the assumption at that time as well that Caliban was dead?

Phaneron

Logan may have questioned how the Reavers found them in the casino hotel, but probably not too much to think of which methods specifically were used to find them, since he was mainly focused on getting out of the Reavers' reach. As the casino hotel was a more populated location, he likely took a gamble and guessed that the Munson household was a far safer place to lay low since the house was in a secluded location.

Casual Person

Other mistake: Throughout the movie, Hank's lab in its shrunken form is constantly jostled and tossed around, but when it's restored to full size in a new location, nothing is out of place and everything still works perfectly.

wizard_of_gore

Upvote valid corrections to help move entries into the corrections section.

Suggested correction: Given that he has prepared the lab to be shrunken and mobilized at a moment's notice, he probably thought of this ahead of time and secured everything important in place.

Phaneron

Perhaps he could secure some things, but there's never so much as a computer monitor out of place.

wizard_of_gore

It's a fair point. I agree that some things should definitely be out of place, but given the importance of what he is working on, he would take measures to ensure that the important things wouldn't become damaged and inoperative when the lab is being moved around. We see on at least one occasion that he has ants roaming the lab, so it's possible he trained them to ensure that the Quantum Gate and any device essential to its operation are protected at all times.

Phaneron

In a world in which a man becomes the size of an ant, I guess any correction could be invalidated. I this case, there are any number of reasons why everything, down to paper and pens, never moves. Maybe the ants pick them all up. Maybe gravity works differently when shrunk. This means that basically any movie that uses magic or magic type technology would never have a valid mistake.

oldbaldyone

Except that I conceded that minor things should be out of place. I specifically mentioned that everything essential to the Quantum Gate's operation was most likely protected from being strewn around or damaged while the lab was mobile.

Phaneron

6th Mar 2010

Spider-Man (2002)

Corrected entry: Nice pun before the fight in the burning building (German dub): Spidey's "It's you who's out, Gobbie. Out of your mind" is dubbed as "Du bist es der verloren hat, Koblöd. Und zwar Deinen Verstand." "Goblin" is correctly translated to "Kobold" in the subtitles of my edition (done by SDI media group) though. (01:20:50)

ichabod

Correction: This entry needs clarification. What exactly is the pun? You have indicated that the correct German translation for "Goblin" is "Kobold," but what is Koblöd supposed to mean?

S. Ha

Koblöd means Kable. Though the word is Hungarian.

In that case, I'm not sure what the original submitter thought was a pun. Merely a goof by the folks doing the foreign subtitles, nothing more.

Phaneron

31st Mar 2018

Doctor Strange (2016)

Corrected entry: Why didn't Kaecilius steal the infinity stone at the beginning of the movie? He was a student at Kamatage for a long time. He should know how powerful it is and where to find it. I mean would be easy to take it, because the stone isn't secured at all. It is just lying around on a platform in another room.

Goekhan

Correction: Obtaining the Time Stone is not his goal, and much like Baron Mordo, he's probably well aware of how destructive the Time Stone can be if its power is abused.

Phaneron

Not a very good correction. Kaecilius' goal is to obtain as much power as he can gets. Just stealing a side of a book compared to the powers of a Time Stone is very modest for a villain. The detail that the Time Stone is dangerous wouldn't be problem for him at all. Destruction is his business for his master Dormammu.

Goekhan

Kaecilius' ultimate goal is to live forever, which he hopes to achieve by becoming a follower of Dormmamu and living in the Dark Dimension. The Time Stone could grant him the same wish, but it would require him to live in a continuous loop or to perpetually oscillate time back and forth. Choosing Dormmamu is simply a more practical solution for him.

Phaneron

26th Aug 2014

Blue Streak (1999)

Corrected entry: Since ML's partner was shot and killed during the commission of a felony, he would have been charged with felony murder and gotten a lot more than 2 years in prison.

brianjr0412

Correction: Eddie is murdered by Deacon and given that Deacon betrayed the group, Miles could have testified in court about any of Deacon's previous criminal activities that he was privy to in exchange for immunity to Eddie's murder and/or a reduced sentence.

Phaneron

Since none of that is actually stated in the movie you're just making it up.

brianjr0412

Miles was never charged with felony murder in the movie either, you are making that up too! You stated what you believed to be a mistake, and Phaneron gave, within the context of the movie universe, an explanation as to why your alleged mistake was incorrect.

We as viewers are allowed to speculate as to what happens in movies off-screen in order to fill in gaps in the narrative. Obviously Miles would have had a trial prior to his sentencing, but the trial itself would have been neither essential to the plot or interesting to watch, and since Miles is released after two years, it's fair to assume he struck some kind of deal.

Phaneron

We can speculate all we want. Doesn't make it canon.

brianjr0412

No, it doesn't make it canon. By that same token, you asserting that Miles should have received a longer sentence despite the film providing us no details as to how his trial went down doesn't make it a movie mistake either.

Phaneron

11th May 2018

Iron Man (2008)

Question: How did Stane's guards round up the ten rings? They didn't appear to have any weapons when they arrived, and the ten rings appeared to outnumber them.

Answer: Given that Stane was carrying (and used) the small, easily-concealed paralysis device, it may be assumed that his entourage were carrying (and using) the devices, also. They simply paralyzed the 10 Rings guards.

Charles Austin Miller

The Ten Rings members were shown kneeling with their hands on their heads, though. They wouldn't be able to do that if they had been paralyzed.

Phaneron

That doesn't negate the probability that Stane's entourage used the paralysis device on a few guards to demonstrate the effect, whereupon the other toady guards simply surrendered.

Charles Austin Miller

Makes sense.

Phaneron

Answer: He may have had another group of guards lying in wait and then surprise the Ten Rings members from behind after a certain amount of time had passed.

Phaneron

Corrected entry: In First Class, Professor X is made handicapped in 1962 at the end of the movie. In the previous X-men movie, he was walking when he visited the girl (Jean) in the mid 70s with Magneto.

Correction: In the next sequel, "Days of Future Past", it is established that there is at least one method by which Charles Xavier can temporarily regain his ability to walk to short periods of time. It is very possible that he was using one of these methods while visiting the young Jean.

Correction: It was also stated that Xavier cannot use his telepathic powers when using the serum, but does when they are talking to Jean. He catches her reading his and even Magneto's mind and especially the latter wasn't just a wild guess. It is very unlikely that he used the serum at this point in time since he has turned his back on it after the events shown in DoFP.

In Days of Future Past, it is never explicitly stated the serum stops Xavier's powers, instead, McCoy explains after Logan questions the actions of the professor that he "designed a serum to treat his spine" derived from his designed to control his 'Beast'. He goes on to say Charles takes "too much." It is possible that after Days of Future Past, Xavier could have pulled back a little, taking just enough to help him walk but not block his mutation.

"The Last Stand" takes place in a different timeline than "Days of Future Past" though. It's possible that in the original timeline, Xavier later used an improved serum that granted him the ability to walk while still retaining his powers, but then stopped using eventually due to it becoming ineffective, harmful to his body or out of concerns of becoming addicted to it.

Phaneron

12th Apr 2018

General questions

I caught the tail end of a presumably made-for-television movie some time in the early to mid 90s. It featured a man who had himself altered to look exactly like another man whose life and family he wanted. The two ended up fighting with one of them falling to his death. We are led to believe the evil man died, but it is shortly thereafter revealed that he was the one who survived when he is shown shuffling a coin on his knuckles, which my brother told me is something he was shown doing earlier in the movie. Does anyone have any idea what the title of this movie is?

Phaneron

Chosen answer: I believe this is the 1994 TV movie 'Natural Selection' starring C. Thomas Howell.

Purple_Girl

That's it. Thanks. I was wondering for years what that movie was called.

Phaneron

Corrected entry: At the start of the film we jump forward 8 years to present day but the attack in the first Avengers film was only 4 years prior to Captain America Civil War, where Spider Man first appeared at the airport. Spiderman Homecoming is set a few months after that.

Correction: No specific dates are given regarding the first Avengers film, but using scenes and dialogue from other films, we can deduce that it took place earlier than 2012. "Iron Man" was filmed in 2007 and released in 2008, so we can assume it takes place in one of those years. "Iron Man 2" is said to take place 6 months after the end of the first film, with "Thor" and "The Incredible Hulk" taking place around the same time. In "The Avengers" Nick Fury makes reference to Thor and Loki having come to Earth a year prior, which means that "The Avengers" takes place most likely in the summer of 2009 or 2010. So if this film takes place in 2017 or 2018, then the eight-year jump fits within the timeline. It is admittedly confusing, but it checks out.

Phaneron

So I watched all the MCU movies leading up to "Avengers: Infinity War" and there are references to the first "Avengers" film taking place in 2012, notably in "Iron Man 3" with Killian stating that Tony Stark spurned him 13 years earlier on New Years Eve in 1999. Apparently one of the Russo brothers have also stated that the "8 years later" thing is incorrect.

Phaneron

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